Dogs and Men Have Some Things in Common

Pet Columnist talks about explaining to dogs and men what kind of behavior is acceptable.

 Please don't get the wrong idea, but there are lots of ways that men are sort of like, well, dogs! 

Here's what I mean: like dogs, men WANT to be our Knights in Shining Armor, don't they?

Think about it. They want to provide for us. They want us to be happy. They just don't know how to go about it.

Of course, men don't have crystal balls...opps! I mean a crystal ball. As much as we might wish it, men cannot read our minds, we have to sort of lead them in the direction we want them to go.

Dogs are the same way. It is up to us to explain to our dogs in a language that they will understand what is expected of them.  Of  course,we need to learn our dog's language: the language of the pack.

Being pack animals, dogs want someone to be the leader of the pack. If someone doesn't take on that leadership role, they will reluctantly do it because in the dog's head SOMEONE has to do it.

By making sure your dog knows that you are the leader he is looking for, and what kind of behavior is expected, you can prevent him from acting out.

 Remember, our world is a big scary place for dogs, they will act out of frustration by pulling on the leash, barking inappropriately, taking a bite out of the couch, or whatever unique way your pet has of " acting out" their own frustration.

Once they know what is expected of them they will happily play and stay within the boundaries that you set for them.

The same thing is true with men. if you were to say to a man, "I hate it when do do that," and you add, "you know what would really make me happy," and then explain whatever that is; you'll find that they will provide that kind of behavior.

If men and dogs know how to make you happy and they love you, they will provide.







Scott Killeen August 12, 2011 at 04:39 PM
Why do you hate men?
Ellen Vukovich August 12, 2011 at 08:00 PM
This article also made me uncomfortable.
Patti August 12, 2011 at 10:37 PM
I don't think she is a man hater. I think she just worded her comments incorrectly. So I will be the peace maker here. I think she was saying man want women to stand up for themselves and converse so they know your feelings and that goes for any living creature that we can reason with. Dogs need a pack leader meaning (displine, boundies and limitations). Children that are not displine also need to be lead in the right direction other wise they are unruly and out of line, animals can be the same way and that is why if a lack of training they can become unruly that is why you need to get a grip on the problem immediately.. I think she is using men and dogs as her example. Actually dogs have the mental capacity of a 3 to 5 year old child, some brilliant dogs "maybe" their mental capacity could go as high as a 6 year old child. I think men reason much differently than a 3-6 year old child don't you? There are many brilliant men in this world and very kind and extremely generous. Do Remember the book Men are from Mars and Women from Venus (?) I think it all depends on the individual doesn't matter Men, Women, Child, Dog or Cat!!! They are all very unique in their own way but still need discipline, we still need it even as adults. So get a great dog trainer and train yourself and your dogs and you can enjoy learning together who knows you might meet the person of your dreams.
Karen Mangini August 13, 2011 at 05:11 PM
You are right Patty thank you! The article was edited in a confusing way. I LOVE men. I only meant to suggest that when we understand how dogs are thinking and feeling, when we learn THEIR language (the pack mentality), we can communicate with them as to what behavior expected of them. Everyone is happier. Men are the same way because when we respect them and learn THEIR language, everyones needs are met. It seems sometimes that we are two different species. I have seen so many well meaning women assume that men know what they are thinking and feeling. Women are complex creatures and men cannot read out minds. It is up to us to explain to men what it is that will make us happy in a non-threatening way,(a mans language). What the article was supposed to read is... How do you think a man would respond to you if you said "I hate it when you do that, you always do that, I wish you wouldn't do that! "This way of communicating does not work! Instead, look him straight in the eyes and say something like, "Do you know what would really make me happy?" And smile when you say it. You are giving him the answers. Everyone gets their needs met ( dogs, women, men and children) if we learn their language with respect and love.
Scott Killeen August 13, 2011 at 05:32 PM
What a pathetic cop out from a "female chauvinist" masquerading as a animal activist! They is NO possible way a male could have written anything close to what you said about a woman and get away with it, so how is it correct that you can post a sexist article against men acting as a animal activist? I did not misinterpret your point, just because you said "don't get the wrong idea, but" in your Patch article gives you an opening for a sexist platform, hiding behind a want to be animal activist title. Please don't take this wrong...I figure the only way to deal with a bitch, oops, sorry, female is to make you understand on your terms.
A. Dweeb August 13, 2011 at 10:32 PM
i think the article was intended to be light hearted and humorous. she makes a very valid point. haven't you seen "the dog whisperer"? most communication takes place through body language and energy. Scott you seem to see hatred and doom in every direction you look for it. i think you need a shock collar to keep you from nipping at people's ankles.
Scott Killeen August 14, 2011 at 12:52 AM
Dweeb, You could be right! Nice to see you're actually a person (woman) with some brain matter. I have heard of the TV show "Dog Whisper", I don't think Cesar would have EVER printed anything like this article with a sexist attitude towards women using any animal as an example! If fact I donated a web domain to him, www.bethepackleader.com. It's obvious a "light hearted" approach was tried in this so called article to help women understand their dogs. Another extreme example of a "light hearted" approach to comedy was the MIchael Richards "joke" using a racial slur. What? No, the difference is actually the same as Karen being a sexist hiding behind a "animal activist" name to spew her attitude towards men. Why does this article truly upset me? Because any "man" could NEVER get away with posting an article about women and fish! Oops, pretty bad right? Yeah, right! Please don't take that wrong….That last sentence does NOT give me a comedic excuse to demean women, oh I'm sorry, to have a "light hearted" article about women and a gill bearing aquatic vertebra! Dweebie, keep your shock collar for yourself...
Patti August 15, 2011 at 05:07 PM
Karen please apologize to Scott he is very upset and will take our Animal Welfare Site and shut it down. So Please just apologize to him so we can have our Animal Welfare site up and running. He has done such a great job for all of us and sho has his wife BJ and he is such a great person but appalled by your comments. thanks Patti
Karen Mangini August 15, 2011 at 09:44 PM
How or why would one man shut down a website that I have nothing to do with?? I am sorry! As i said before the article was changed and edited in a way that i didn't intend.
Scott Killeen August 15, 2011 at 10:02 PM
Let me explain it to you one more time! I own, created and maintain the Animal Welfare Committee website. The website at this point is being used to let everyone know your inner interest and it's obvious, it's not about helping the animals first, YOUR sexist attitude towards men is being used behind the veil of being an animal activist! That's pretty pathetic, plain and simple to read through! I wish I could have been first in writing about women the way your wrote about men. I wonder if you would have commented about that article?
A. Dweeb August 16, 2011 at 05:06 AM
Scott it is the height of unprofessionalism to pull down someone's website over your hurt feelings. It looks & works like a POS too, it must be a freebie. If anyone from the Animal Welfare Commitee is interested in a decent looking website that actually delivers pertinent information, and will not be used to bully free speech, please contact me.
Karen Mangini August 16, 2011 at 08:39 PM
Right on A. Dweeb! What right does this guy have of attempting to control and make people suffer over his own insecurities. I will not be blackmailed! This is the kind of mind-set indicative of the corporate bully take-over. By the way, while i am on the subject...This is the kind of behavior that will not longer be tolerated as we continue down our road on our evolution and paradigm shift. The world is changing, we are moving away from the controlling, manipulated and competitive world view. The age of deceit, corruption and suffering are falling away. Old structures and false value systems are disappearing and making room for integrity, connecting, community and compassion.We must learn to live in Natural Harmony with all living creatures of the Earth, including, dare I say it...Ok, here it goes... men...yes still light-hearted honesty!! Thank you for your support!
Scott Killeen August 16, 2011 at 09:26 PM
Uh, Dweebie, that's my website I pulled down, NOT someone else's, and here is your favorite line, PERIOD! Please Dweeb, will you spend your time and create the best looking website with actual pertinent information, at no cost, please do. Will you? Sherman Oaks can use it, then PLEASE make contact with Jeff Ebebstein, he is in charge of the Animal Welfare Committee of the Sherman Oaks Neighborhood Council. Please give your time for helping the people with animals in Sherman Oaks and the world… www.animalwelfarecommittee.com Free speech is great, I should know. Corporate owed websites will always be subject to free speech problems. Post your thoughts on your own website and show the world you are sexists towards men, I dare you, put your mouth were your thoughts are, you did it once, on the Patch. Wow, that sounded pretty manly if I say so myself... And I as a man will not be thrown in the gutter from a bitch, oops sorry, female dog sexist USING animals as a platform. You were called out and are a really piece of hufemity.
A. Dweeb August 16, 2011 at 10:26 PM
You are so right Karen. i can't wait til we get to that place. ...and Scott, thanks for the info, Mr. Ebenstein will be hearing from me. you're right, Sherman Oaks needs it. no one here threw you in the gutter, you do just fine by yourself.
Scott Killeen August 16, 2011 at 11:19 PM
Dweebie, You must really have it in your heart to help, did you not ever check the SONC website before, the info has been posted for years. Heck I even posted it on my website. Here is some more background for you. I signed up, along with many others to help Jeff Ebenstein to try and get the SONC Animal Welfare Committee going. Unfortunately after a so-so try the committee never got off the ground but to Jeff's credit and others he has kept the SONC abreast of Los Angeles city animal rights problems and has recommended to the SO council to back many pro animal rights agendas. So "I" started this website myself and it has nothing to do with the SONC. I pay and maintain this website myself with many animal loving people emailing me subject matter to post. It's just a small something I feel good about doing for myself and animals. And now with your, I guess, expertise the people of Sherman Oaks will have a superior and better website for animal information. You will create and maintain "a decent looking website that actually delivers pertinent information", won't you? So I guess, standing up to someone who is demeaning is wrong? That "place" has been around for awhile but people like Karen keep shoving you back in time! Please bring attention to any other Patch article in which a man was as demeaning to women as Karen was demeaning to men. If you don't know how to play the game get off the field!
Karen Mangini August 16, 2011 at 11:22 PM
A.Dweeb That "place" CAN happen a lot faster if we all were to visualize it as the most likely future scenario, past all of the 'HEAD" consciousness and focus on the "Heart" consciousness! You are so right about the 'gutter"comment, people like Scott who are vibrating at such a low energy level are their own worst enemy.
Ex Republican September 12, 2011 at 04:48 PM
I think Karen needs a man.
lisa sprenger May 26, 2012 at 03:34 AM
knowing Karen Mangini for sometime, I can honestly tell you that she has always has terrific problems with men in the area of superiority. I don't think she ever bow wowed enough men to quelch their need for being the alpha-dog since she cut them at the ......immediately. I hope she learns the message of a two-way street with her dogs and men.
karen mangini May 26, 2012 at 06:40 PM
Lisa! I have been looking for you........How are you? I have grown a lot in the last few years. You really dont know me anymore or my motives. I would love to reconnect with you.


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